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Bodily pleasures

Should we distrust the pleasures of the body, or celebrate them?

Is giving in to the body's pleasure a way of fulfilling oneself, or of being ruled by what one cannot master? To take a position is to say whether the body is an ally of the good life or a force to keep in check.

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Asceticism

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Bodily pleasures distract the soul from what truly matters: truth, the good, salvation. They must therefore be disciplined, or even renounced, for whoever surrenders to them becomes a slave to desire and misses the higher goods.

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Associated figures: Plato · Pascal
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Plotinusexplicit

Bodily pleasures bind the soul to the lowest degree of being and turn it away from its ascent: the first virtue, the "purificatory" one, consists precisely in detaching from them so as to return the soul to itself. Without condemning the body as a positive evil, Plotinus urges a resolute asceticism, the sage holding bodily needs to be mere necessities to be met at a minimum, never ends.

Enneads, I, 2 (On Virtues) · Enneads, I, 4

Schopenhauerexplicit

The declared ideal is : chastity, voluntary poverty, fasting, by which the body, the most immediate objectification of the will, is methodically starved in order to break the will-to-live. But this is the ideal of the saint, which the philosopher describes without embodying it: Schopenhauer lived as a gourmet rentier and owned the gap, no more than a sculptor need be beautiful himself does the philosopher need to be a saint to draw the saint's portrait.

The World as Will and Representation, §68

Cynicismexplicit

Cynicism is a radical asceticism: through (training), the sage makes do with water, bread, and a coarse cloak, rejecting luxury and refinements as so many forms of bondage. Seeing a child drink from its cupped hands, Diogenes threw away his bowl, judging that a child had outdone him in simplicity.

Diogenes Laertius, Lives, VI, 37 · Diogenes Laertius, Lives, VI, 22-23

Diogenes of Sinopeexplicit

Diogenes' asceticism is radical: through (training), he makes do with water, bread and a coarse cloak, hardening himself to cold and hunger. Seeing a child drink from its cupped hands, he threw away his bowl, judging that a child had outdone him in simplicity. Yet the stance is not a pure asceticism that despises the body, and this is its own nuance: whatever accords with nature is never shameful, and Diogenes performs the crudest bodily functions in public. Luxury and refinement, on the other hand, are rejected as forms of bondage, not because pleasure would be bad, but because factitious need enslaves. Hence an asceticism of the superfluous rather than a condemnation of the body.

Diogenes Laertius, Lives, VI, 37 and 22-23

Senecaexplicit

Pleasure is not the good: to confuse the happy life with a life of pleasure is to sink man to the level of beasts. Seneca commends a sober life, the voluntary endurance of hunger and cold, and holds bodily pleasure to be an not to be sought for its own sake, without lapsing into outright mortification.

On the Happy Life, X-XV (against equating happiness with pleasure) · Letters to Lucilius, XVIII and CXXIII (rehearsing frugality)

The Buddhaexplicit

The criterion is not moral but pragmatic: what counts is what actually leads to awakening. Gautama had tested both failures in his own flesh, the pleasure-life of the palace and the six years of extreme fasting that had left him wasted without awakening him; from this he concludes that both extremes miss their aim. The first sermon accordingly rejects both the pursuit of sensual pleasures, "low and vulgar", and self-mortification, "painful and fruitless", for the alone. Without condemning the body, he treats sensory pleasures as attachments that feed : the leaning stays ascetic, but regulated and deliberately measured, against the grain of the radical asceticism of the renunciants of his time.

Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta, Saṃyutta Nikāya 56.11 (the two extremes and the Middle Way)

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Epicurusexplicit

Although pleasure is the good, Epicurus advocates a measured sobriety: the highest pleasure is not the abundance of enjoyments but the absence of pain, which a little bread and water suffices to procure. When we say that pleasure is the end, we do not mean the pleasures of the dissolute but the absence of pain in the body and of trouble in the soul. The value leans slightly toward asceticism, out of frugality rather than contempt for the body.

Letter to Menoeceus, 130-132 (the praise of frugality) · Principal Doctrines, XV (the wealth required by nature is easily obtained)

Śaṅkaraexplicit

Renunciation (saṃnyāsa) of the world and its enjoyments is held to be the condition most favorable to liberating knowledge: Śaṅkara's ideal sage is the wandering ascetic, detached from bodily pleasures as from every worldly good. Sensible pleasures bind one to the body-mind compound that the path invites one precisely to transcend. It is a pronounced asceticism, which does not hold the body to be evil in itself but subordinates it entirely to the quest for liberation.

Upadeśasāhasrī · Commentary on the Bhagavad Gītā

Platonismexplicit

Platonic asceticism rests on the image of the body as the tomb of the soul (sōma/sēma) and on distrust of sensible pleasures, which chain the soul to becoming and hamper its ascent toward the intelligible. Purification consists in detaching oneself from the body as far as possible.

Plato, Phaedo, 64c-67b, purification · Plato, Gorgias, 493a, the body as tomb

Platoinferable

The soul-body dualism calls for detachment from bodily pleasures, which "rivet" the soul to the sensible and hinder knowledge: the philosopher reduces them as far as possible. The stance stays measured, for the grants a place to pure, true pleasures within a well-ordered mixed life.

Phaedo, 64c-67b, 82e-83d · Philebus, 63e-64a

Epictetusexplicit

The body and pleasure are : one should use external goods with measure, attach to them only as one uses a passing inn, and defer pleasure to make sure one remains its master. A moderate asceticism, with no absolute condemnation of pleasure.

Enchiridion, §11 and §34 · Enchiridion, §33

Marcus Aureliusexplicit

To break the objects of desire into their parts dissolves their prestige: this dish is only an animal's carcass, this wine grape juice, the union of bodies a mere rubbing. Pleasure being an , one should use it soberly and without enslavement to it, a measured asceticism rather than mortification.

Meditations, VI, 13 · Meditations, III, 2

Stoicisminferable

Bodily pleasure is a mere : neither good nor evil, it warrants neither pursuit nor cult. Without condemning the body, the Stoics commend a disciplined sobriety and training in doing without the superfluous, so that nothing external holds the soul in its power. The tendency is ascetic, but moderate.

Seneca, Letters to Lucilius, 18 · Epictetus, Enchiridion, §33

Laoziinferable

"The five flavors dull the palate, racing and hunting madden the heart": sensory excess wears and misleads, and the sage prefers sobriety, "the belly rather than the eye." This is not an asceticism of mortification but a frugality attuned to the , which trims excess without condemning simple pleasure.

Dao De Jing, ch. 12 · Dao De Jing, ch. 9 and 67

Buddhismexplicit

The sermon at Benares sets aside two extremes, the pursuit of sensual pleasures and self-mortification, in favor of the . Without condemning the body, Buddhism treats sensory pleasures as attachments that feed craving, and commends measured sobriety: the tendency is ascetic, but moderate and free of harsh rigor.

Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta (the sermon at Benares)

Epicureanismexplicit

Against the caricature of debauchery, Epicurus advocates a sober life: the pleasure sought is chiefly katastematic, the stable pleasure of satisfied need, rather than the kinetic pleasure of enjoyment. The position thus leans slightly toward frugality, without condemning the body.

Epicurus, Letter to Menoeceus, 130-131 · Epicurus, Vatican Sayings, 33

Temperance

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Neither renunciation nor excess: enjoy the pleasures of the body, but in measure. Temperance is not the enemy of pleasure but its right ordering: to savor what is good at the right moment, without becoming its slave. Pleasure is a good as long as reason stays in command.

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Socratesinferable

Indifferent to luxury, going barefoot and wearing the same cloak in every season, Socrates does not for all that condemn pleasure: he feasts at the and can drink all night without drunkenness. His sobriety is not the asceticism that takes the body for an enemy, but a temperance that uses everything without being its slave.

Plato, Symposium, 220a and 223c-d · Xenophon, Memorabilia, I, 3, 5-15

Aristotleexplicit

Pleasure is neither the good nor an evil: it completes the activity as the bloom of youth crowns the young. The virtue of temperance is the between intemperance and insensibility, the latter defect being itself a vice, hence a position just past the balance point, on the side of a measured celebration.

Nicomachean Ethics, X.4 (1174b); III.11

Aristotelianismexplicit

Aristotelianism rejects both asceticism and intemperance: pleasure is not the good, but it completes activity as beauty completes youth. Bodily pleasures are legitimate so long as they keep to the set by temperance, yielding a very moderate position, barely on the accepting side.

Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, X, 4-5 · Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, III, 10-11

Thomas Aquinasinferable

Against the contempt for the body found in certain traditions, Thomas holds bodily pleasures to be good in themselves, willed by God and necessary to life: pleasure completes the natural operation. But the virtue of temperance submits them to reason and to the final end, neither condemning nor exalting them. Hence a position of balance, equidistant from asceticism and celebration, faithful to the .

Summa Theologiae, Ia-IIae, q. 34 (the goodness of pleasures)

Zhuangziinferable

Zhuangzi neither mortifies the body as a prison of the soul nor erects pleasure into an end: he takes it for a moment of the flux to be welcomed with ease, without greed or disgust. "Caring for the vital principle" is neither asceticism nor debauchery but the care not to wear out one's life by exhausting it in desires or fears. The position is properly median, a playful temperance that follows the natural of the body without making it either an enemy or an idol.

Zhuangzi, ch. 3 (The Secret of Caring for Life)

Celebration

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The body and its pleasures are not obstacles but an essential part of a fully human life. Eating, loving, sensing, delighting: knowing how to savor these joys with gratitude and intensity is a form of wisdom, and contempt for them often conceals a resentment against life.

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Camusexplicit

Far from any asceticism, Camus celebrates the sensual happiness of the body, close to a of the present moment: the warmth of the sun, the salt of the sea, the embrace of the Algerian earth are lived as a nuptial union with the world. Carnal pleasure is no weakness to be corrected but a tangible truth, the only one offered to man with no beyond.

Nuptials (1939) · Summer (1954)

Calliclesexplicit

Extending his praise of desire, he takes bodily pleasures to be the very stuff of happiness: the strong man has the right to procure them amply; asceticism is only a morality of impotence dressed up as wisdom.

Plato, Gorgias, 491e-492c

Michel de Montaigneexplicit

Against a Christian asceticism that sets soul over body, Montaigne rehabilitates natural pleasures and refuses to "dissociate" himself from the body he was given. There are not two wisdoms, one for the mind and one despising the flesh: "it is an absolute and almost divine perfection to know how to enjoy one's being loyally". To eat, sleep and make love are not concessions to nature but occasions of presence, provided one is wholly in them. Measure tempers this celebration, since excess spoils enjoyment itself; but the tone, joyful and earthbound, places him squarely on the side of nature, where would hail a free spirit.

Essays, III, 13, "Of Experience"

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Nietzscheexplicit

The third essay of the dismantles the ascetic ideal as a symptom of declining life, and Zarathustra rehabilitates the body, the "great reason", against the despisers of the body. Nietzschean celebration, however, aims at health and strength more than enjoyment.

On the Genealogy of Morality, III · Thus Spoke Zarathustra, "On the Despisers of the Body"

Benthaminferable

No pleasure is bad in itself: the pleasures of sense appear on the same footing as the rest in Bentham's catalogue, and only their quantitative effect on the overall balance matters. Far from any asceticism, which he ranks among the mistaken principles, he celebrates on principle every pleasure, bodily ones included, so long as it breeds no more pain than it yields enjoyment.

An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation, ch. V (the catalogue of pleasures and pains) · An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation, ch. II (against the principle of asceticism)

Beauvoirinferable

Far from any asceticism, Beauvoir reclaims the body and sexuality as full dimensions of existence, to be lived freely and not under the weight of shame or of taboos imposed on women. Liberation includes the reappropriation of desire and pleasure as an assumed part of embodied freedom.

The Second Sex (1949), vol. I, on sexual initiation and female sexuality

Spinozainferable

is good in itself, for it marks the passage to a greater perfection and increases the power to act; to make moderate use of pleasures befits the wise. Spinoza mocks the savage and sad superstition that forbids pleasure: nothing warrants thinking a god delights in our privation. The moderation comes only from reason's task of regulating these pleasures.

Ethics, IV, prop. 45, scholium (against the sad superstition that forbids pleasure) · Ethics, III, definitions of the affects (joy, the passage to a greater perfection)

Odysseusinferable

Odysseus is nothing of an : he savors the good meal, wine, sleep, the bed of a goddess as of his wife; bodily pleasures have their full and guiltless place with him. He tends not to abandon himself to them to the point of forgetting his end, as a man who means to stay master of his course; yet the Odyssey also shows him lingering, a whole year with Circe, forgetful of his return for a time, proof that this mastery is by no means infallible.

Odyssey, VIII-X (the feasts with Alcinous and Circe) · Odyssey, V, X (Calypso and Circe)

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These two extremes, monks, should not be followed by one who has gone forth: the pursuit of sensual pleasure, and the pursuit of self-mortification.
The Buddha · Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta (Saṃyutta Nikāya 56.11)

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It is no more necessary for the saint to be a philosopher than for the philosopher to be a saint; just as it is not necessary for a perfectly beautiful person to be a great sculptor, or for a great sculptor to be a beautiful person.
Schopenhauer · The World as Will and Representation, §68

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Bread and water confer the highest pleasure when one brings them to needy lips.
Epicurus · Letter to Menoeceus, 130-131

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